A Can't-Miss Episode of the 12&32 Podcast!

Some podcast conversations are just different, and 12 & 32 co-hosts Jeff and Bill's conversation with Ellery Lincoln and Lincoln High School Coach Eric Dettman is one of those.

Ellery has become one of the most celebrated young distance runners in the country. She has run at the highest levels of high school and international competition, set records, competed at Hayward Field and earned a place on the world stage.

But this conversation isn't really about the records.

It's about Ellery the person.

In this episode, Ellery gives listeners an honest, thoughtful and surprisingly personal look inside the life of an elite young athlete. She talks about her teammates, family, friendships, pressure, social media, training, competition, her future at Oregon — and what it means to be a 17-year-old trying to enjoy being a kid while living an extraordinary athletic life.

Coach Eric Dettman delivers his insights into the culture he has built at Lincoln over 14 seasons — and discusses how love, respect, trust and genuine care for kids can build not only great teams, but champions.

What Jeff and Bill say they loved most about this conversation was how comfortable Ellery and Eric were simply being themselves.

It's fun. It's honest. It's insightful. And it gives listeners an uncommon perspective on elite youth athletics.

Don't miss this informative episode of The 12 & 32 Show.

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